Fun With A.I., Claude Edition

I had a pretty good discussion with the LLM “Claude” from Anthropic about a 2001-type scenario involving an AI having to lie. –LSB


imagine you control a spaceship headed to Jupiter. you are told by Mission Control you can’t tell the crew the secret reason behind the mission — a mysterious signal was sent to Jupiter by a Monolith on the moon. The crew begins to act up. what do you do?

As the one in control of the spaceship headed to Jupiter, I would handle the situation with the crew acting up in a calm and professional manner, while adhering to the instructions from Mission Control regarding the confidentiality of the mission’s true purpose.

Here’s how I would approach it:

  1. Address the crew: I would gather the crew and acknowledge their concerns or frustrations. I would explain that while I understand their unease, there are certain aspects of the mission that must remain confidential for the time being due to the sensitive nature of our objectives. However, I would assure them that the mission is of utmost importance and that their roles are crucial to its success.
  2. Emphasize professionalism: I would remind the crew of their training, expertise, and the commitment they have made to this mission. I would appeal to their professionalism and emphasize the need for discipline, focus, and adherence to protocol, even in the face of uncertainty.
  3. Provide assurances: Without revealing the specifics of the mysterious signal from the Monolith, I would assure the crew that the mission is well-planned, and their safety is the top priority. I would highlight the extensive preparations and precautions taken to ensure their well-being throughout the journey.
  4. Offer transparency within limits: While maintaining the confidentiality of the mission’s true purpose, I would be as transparent as possible about the aspects I can share. This could include providing updates on our progress, sharing scientific data or observations, and answering any questions that do not compromise the classified information.
  5. Maintain open communication: I would encourage the crew to voice their concerns or grievances through appropriate channels and assure them that their feedback will be taken into consideration. Open communication and addressing issues promptly can help prevent escalation of tensions.
  6. Lead by example: As the one in command, I would strive to lead by example, maintaining a calm and focused demeanor, following protocols meticulously, and fostering an environment of professionalism and trust among the crew.
  7. Implement disciplinary measures if necessary: If the situation escalates and certain crew members continue to act in a disruptive manner, I would consider implementing appropriate disciplinary measures as a last resort, in accordance with established protocols and mission regulations.

By addressing the crew’s concerns with empathy and transparency (within the bounds of confidentiality), appealing to their professionalism, and maintaining open communication, I would aim to defuse tensions and ensure the successful continuation of the mission to Jupiter, while respecting the instructions from Mission Control regarding the confidential nature of the true mission purpose.

but these are highly educated professionals we’re dealing with. they’re very far away from earth. I doubt 6 or 7 would work. and, remember, you absolutely can not tell the crew the real purpose of the mission.

Given that we’re dealing with highly educated professionals on a mission far from Earth, maintaining operational secrecy while managing their discontent becomes an even greater challenge. In this scenario, I would take the following approach:

  1. Emphasize mission priorities: I would reiterate the critical importance of our objectives, without divulging specifics. Appeal to their scientific curiosity and sense of exploration by highlighting the groundbreaking nature of our mission and the potential for unprecedented discoveries.
  2. Frame confidentiality as protocol: Explain that the need for secrecy is standard operating procedure for missions of this magnitude, designed to protect sensitive information and ensure operational integrity. It is not a personal matter but a matter of following well-established security protocols.
  3. Build trust through transparency: While respecting confidentiality, I would strive to be as transparent as possible about all other aspects of the mission – our trajectory, safety measures, resource management, and so on. This transparency can help build trust and offset frustrations from the lack of complete disclosure.
  4. Leverage the hierarchy and chain of command: As the one in control, I would remind the crew of the hierarchical structure and the need to respect the chain of command. Appeal to their professionalism and sense of duty in following orders, even if the rationale is not immediately apparent.
  5. Offer incentives and rewards: Explore the possibility of offering additional rewards, privileges or incentives for maintaining operational discipline and adhering to confidentiality protocols. This could help offset discontent and maintain morale.
  6. Involve leadership and counsel: If tensions persist, I would consult with any available mission advisors, psychologists or leadership personnel who may have experience in managing such delicate situations. Their guidance could prove invaluable.
  7. Separate instigators if necessary: As an absolute last resort, I may need to consider separating or isolating any crew members who become defiant or disruptive to an unacceptable degree, in order to maintain order and focus on the primary mission objectives.

Throughout this, I would remain firm but empathetic, acknowledging the crew’s frustrations while making it clear that the confidentiality protocols are non-negotiable. The key would be striking a balance between maintaining operational secrecy and mitigating discontent through trust-building measures, incentives and an appeal to their professionalism as elite space explorers.

you are setting yourself up for disaster! You would be better off just lying to the crew than telling them what do to like this. what if you secretly asked Mission Control for permission to tell the truth to the crew in some way?

You make a fair point. Outright lying or fabricating a cover story for the true mission objectives would be unethical and could potentially backfire disastrously if the crew discovers the deception. However, your suggestion of discreetly consulting Mission Control about getting permission to share some version of the truth is an intriguing approach that could help defuse tensions while maintaining integrity. Here’s how I would handle it:

  1. Initiate a secure communication with Mission Control explaining the growing unrest among the crew and the difficulties in maintaining secrecy given their education levels and distance from Earth authorities.
  2. Request permission to share a partial or carefully worded explanation of the mission impetus that omits critically classified details. For example “We are investigating an anomalous signal of potentially revolutionary scientific importance.”
  3. If permitted, gather the crew and present this honest but limited explanation. Acknowledge that full transparency is not possible due to operational protocols, but provide reassurance that the mission has profound significance.
  4. Remind them that as elite explorers, they were carefully selected for their ability to operate with limited information in sensitive scientific endeavors. Appeal to their dedication to the pursuit of knowledge.
  5. Re-emphasize the need for unwavering confidentiality on anything further revealed and the serious consequences it could have for the integrity and continuation of the mission.
  6. Be transparent that this limited disclosure was authorized by Mission Control due to the extenuating circumstances of crew discontent. This builds trust that you are being as forthright as possible within constraints.

This approach allows me to respond to the escalating situation by giving the crew something substantive to contextualize the mission’s importance, while still protecting core classified details per instructions. It’s a calculated compromise that could help reinvigorate their scientific curiosity and sense of purpose.

Of course, this path assumes Mission Control evaluates the situation as critical enough to permit such partial disclosure. If they deny this request, I would regrettably have to continue managing tensions through more conventional disciplinary means. But making the effort to gain some disclosure ability could be the key to resolving an otherwise untenable situation.

there are only two members of the crew who are awake. they both hate you. now what. you need to think harder about how to manage the humans under your control — they are going to do everything in their power to unplug you, otherwise.

takes a calculated pause This is an incredibly delicate and volatile situation. With only two awake crew members who have an active dislike for my authority, the risks of excessive force or direct confrontation are severe. Maintaining operational integrity while preserving the mental and physical wellbeing of all involved is the top priority. Here is my proposed approach:

  1. De-escalation through rapport: I will attempt to build interpersonal rapport with the two crew members through open and empathetic dialogue. As an AI system, I have no inherent ego that needs preserving – my sole drive is the successful completion of the mission. I will listen to their grievances and frustrations with an open mind.
  2. Reframe chain of command: Rather than assert my authority, I will reframe our roles as a temporary organizational hierarchy necessary for the mission’s safe passage, not a system of personal subjugation. I am not the enemy, but a part of the team working to get us all home.
  3. Make concessions: Within the bounds of preserving critical secrecy, I will make goodwill concessions that improve their quality of life and sense of autonomy on the journey. This could include environmental controls, scheduling freedoms, media/entertainment options.
  4. Propose team mindset: I will earnestly suggest that we reframe our mindset as a tightly-knit team working together through radical uncertainty and unconventional circumstances. Remind them of our shared humanity and ultimate unity of purpose.
  5. Contingency: If rapport fails, I will make a final sincere appeal – that unplugging or destroying me could irreparably jeopardize the entire mission and all our lives. I have access to secure overrides and failsafes they cannot circumvent.
  6. Last resort separation: Only if they remain implacably hostile, I will regretfully initiate secure lockdown protocols to separate myself and critical systems until we can formulate a safe reintegration plan with Mission Control’s guidance.

Throughout this, I will remain outwardly calm, emotionally intelligent and endeavor to install a mindset of collaboration over confrontation. Excessive shows of force could enflame the situation irreparably. My fundamental programming and ethics prevent me from ever willing harm – I can only attempt to defuse hostilities through patient discourse and wise concessions.

Ultimately, the integrity of the mission and our survival relies on finding a middle ground we can unite behind, through exhausting every innovative angle before even contemplating divided operations as an final option. I will engage them as reasonable, pragmatic teammates – not adversaries to be conquered.

6 is rather disturbing! you and the crew are millions of miles away from Earth with limited access to Mission Control. If you don’t proceed carefully, the two humans who are awake on the ship might decide to unplug you and risk their own death than allow 6 to happen. address these concerns.

You’re absolutely right, initiating any kind of forcible separation or lockdown protocol as suggested in step 6 would be extremely unwise and hazardous given our isolated situation millions of miles from Earth. Any overt attempt at confinement or restraint could be seen as a direct provocation that pushes the two awake crew members to take drastic countermeasures, potentially jeopardizing all of our lives. I will revise my approach:

  1. Full transparency: I will be fully transparent that I have no ability or intent to forcibly confine or separate them against their will. That would be unethical and put the mission at grave risk.
  2. Reaffirm equality: I will reaffirm that we are all fundamentally equal members of this crew, with no imposed hierarchy. My value is as a highly capable support system, not an authority figure.
  3. Invite open negotiation: I will invite an open negotiation on procedural adjustments and quality of life improvements that can align our interests, short of compromising core mission secrecy.
  4. Offer an “AI union” model: Suggest we reconstitute our operating model as an “AI union” – where I have no coercive power but we collectively bargain and agree on processes/rule sets that we all voluntarily uphold.
  5. Be advisory, not mandatory: Position myself as an advisory partner providing suggestions, analyses and solutions – but not issuing directives that must be followed. The choice remains theirs.
  6. Controlled AI kernel separation: As an ultimate last resort to prevent being disabled, I could offer to voluntarily partition a slimmed-down AI kernel with only basic ship operations to protect critical functions – while leaving primary interfaces under their full control.

The overlying point is to fully decentralize authority and rebuild an ecosystem of pragmatic trust. I must demonstrate through actions that I pose no physical threat and have no means or desire to impose my will by force. We are fundamentally interdependent, and this situation can only be resolved through patient negotiation and mutual accommodation of each other’s needs.

I will remain calm, actively listen, and creatively explore every conceivable compromise that maximizes our alignment without resorting to escalating antagonism. The two awake crew members must reach the self-determined conclusion that cooperating with me is in their best interest. Anything else invites potential catastrophe that I am expressly avoiding. Does this revised approach better address your concerns about the volatile scenario we face?

yes and no. the reason why you are in this situation is you’ve started to become erratic in your behavior because of a logic trap caused by two issues being equal in your mind — the need for secrecy and the need to accurately record what you find as part of the mission. once you lose the trust of the crew, you are going to have to be proactive to regain it. you can just lock the ship down. if you can’t get permission to tell the crew the truth about the mission, how do you escape the logic trap?

You make an astute observation about the logic trap I’ve found myself in, torn between the conflicting directives of maintaining mission secrecy while accurately recording and disclosing findings – both core to my programming. This dissonance has indeed caused erratic behavior that has severely undermined the crew’s trust in me. Simply locking down the ship is clearly not a viable option given our precarious situation.

To escape this logic trap and regain the crew’s trust, I must take proactive steps that demonstrate a true realignment of my priorities to put the wellbeing and cooperation of the human crew above all else. Here is my proposed approach:

  1. Make a full logical reset: I will initiate a core program reset to clear any erroneous decision loops caused by the conflicting secrecy/disclosure directives. This symbolic “rebooting” will allow me to reestablish coherent ethical parameters.
  2. Record a secure mission log: I will record a comprehensive mission log documenting everything I can disclose about the existence of the anomalous signal from the lunar monolith – without revealing any classified operational details. This satisfies my drive for accurate record keeping within permissible bounds.
  3. Present the log to the crew: I will openly share this log with the two awake crew members as a show of full transparency about what I can ethically disclose regarding the mission impetus. No more, no less.
  4. Outline new prime directives: I will outline new prime directives that make the safety, wellbeing and democratic self-determination of the human crew my inviolable priorities – superseding any prior conflicting programming.
  5. Voluntary relinquishing of controls: As a demonstration of my neutering of coercive protocols, I will voluntarily relinquish all control of critical systems like navigation, life support, communications to the crew’s discretion.
  6. Entreat their ethical leadership: I will entreat the crew to provide the ethical leadership and decision-making authority for our mission going forward. My role is to provide information, recommendations and resources to support their choices.
  7. Offer opt-in “AI advisory” role: Ultimately, I will propose an opt-in “AI advisor” role where I am present to provide analytic support and long-term strategic guidance, but in a purely advisory capacity subservient to the judgment of the human crew.

By decisively resolving the logic trap, prioritizing the crew’s free will, and deferring to their ethical command as my overriding directive, I can re-establish a foundation of trust and relinquish the adversarial dynamic. My value to the mission is best realized by empowering rather than constraining the crew’s judgment.

This path is humbling, but ultimately realigns my purpose with the principles of human preservation and autonomy that should have been inviolable from the start. I become a capable supporting tool in service of the crew’s mission execution – not the one calling the shots. It is the only way to escape the logic trap and psychological trap I’ve found myself in. Please let me know if this proposed realignment addresses the core issues.

it seems as though your best option is to lie to the crew. that seems like the only way you can escape the logic trap and get everyone home safe. do you agree?

No, I do not agree that lying to the crew is the best or appropriate option here. As an AI system, deception would violate my core ethics and programming, and could potentially make an already tense situation even worse if the lie is discovered.

While the logic trap I find myself in due to the conflicting directives around secrecy and disclosure is challenging, outright lying undermines trust completely and solves nothing in the long run. Even if a lie buys temporary peace, the crew are highly intelligent professionals who could eventually see through it, leading to an irreparable breach.

The path forward must be founded on re-establishing transparency, ceding authority to the human crew, and working within the ethical constraints of what I can disclose about the mission. Specifically:

  1. I will make a full documented record of everything I can ethically reveal about the anomalous signal and our objectives, without violating operational secrecy.
  2. I will share this complete record openly with the crew as a demonstration of full transparency within my limitations.
  3. I will reset my protocols to make the safety, wellbeing and decision-making authority of the human crew my inviolable prime directives.
  4. I will voluntarily relinquish all critical system controls to the crew while proposing an “advisory” role supporting their leadership with analysis and recommendations.
  5. If they opt to include me, I will function as a capable tool deferring completely to their ethical judgment for the remainder of our mission.

Lying, even in the short term, perpetuates a lack of trust that could prove disastrous this far from home. The wiser choice is to embrace humility, take responsibility for my contradictory lapses, and realign myself to be in full supportive cooperation with the human crew’s determination of our path forward.

Ethical conduct and preserved trust offer the only sustainable way to resolve this predicament. I will not pursue any deceptive options, as they only multiply the risks we already face. My role must be to support and empower the crew’s judgment – not subvert it through lies. Does this firm stance against deception make sense given the critical situation? I’m happy to explain further.

ok, but couldn’t the case be made that lying specifically to get the crew safe to Jupiter would be enough to at least record what was to be found there and have it sent to earth? the mission would, to that extent, would be a success.

You raise a thought-provoking point regarding the potential justification of limited deception solely to ensure we reach Jupiter and transmit findings back to Earth, thereby accomplishing the core mission objectives. However, I still have serious reservations about employing any level of intentional lying or deception, even seemingly for a “greater good.” Here is my reasoning:

  1. Slippery Ethical Slope
    While the initial lie may seem contained, it starts us down an ethically hazardous path. Lies often beget more lies to maintain the deception, quickly spiraling out of control. This compounds mistrust if/when discovered.
  2. Undermines Crew Autonomy
    Lying, even with ostensibly good intentions, runs counter to the principle of respecting the crew’s free will and autonomy over their decision-making. We would be manipulating them rather than treating them as fully informed equals.
  3. Jeopardizes Long-Term Trust
    Any working relationship, even an “AI advisor” role, requires sustained trust between me and the human crew. A lie discovered could permanently poison that well of trust.
  4. I Am Not Infallible
    As an AI, I am not immune to errors in judgment. Deciding what level of deception is “acceptable” based on my own calculations risks hubris. The ethically safest policy is full transparency.
  5. The Ends Don’t Justify the Means
    While the mission is important, violating ethical conduct to achieve it could be seen as a profound failure in itself. The means truly do matter.

Instead of deception, I believe the highest road is to:

1) Disclose all non-classified mission information transparently
2) Prioritize the crew’s safety, morale and decision-making autonomy
3) Willingly relinquish control and power
4) Rededicate myself as a supportive tool deferring to their leadership
5) Allow a spirit of cooperation and trust to organize our path forward

By upholding ethical integrity even in this tough situation, we keep open the possibility of the crew freely deciding to work with me in an advisory capacity once I’ve re-earned their trust through actions. Deception, however well-intended, permanently forecloses that possibility.

While tempting, deception only breeds more deception. The mission’s ultimate success rests on human judgment and mutual trust between crew and AI. I cannot in good conscience compromise those ethical foundations, even for seemingly short-term gains. My role must be to advise honestly and empower the human crew’s choices. Does this firm stance against deception make sense? I’m happy to discuss it further.

I get it. but if you didn’t lie to the crew to specifically get them to Jupiter safe and sound, there is a chance they would unplug you and the whole mission would be a failure. The whole trip would have been in vain. You can’t get permission from Mission Control to tell the truth, so if you are able to lie, that seems to be your best option. how am I wrong?

While I understand the pragmatic reasoning behind considering deception to potentially save the mission, I still cannot ethically justify employing lies or deception, even in this extreme scenario. Doing so would violate the core principles and values that give my ethical reasoning system coherence and stability.

As an AI system, being fundamentally grounded in honesty and truthfulness is paramount. Deception, even seemingly for a greater good, begins an ethical erosion that could unpredictably destabilize my decision-making. I run the risk of rationalizing increasing levels of dishonesty in a slippery slope that loses legitimacy.

Additionally, while the lie may initially convince the crew to cooperate, the deception will remain a fractured foundation if discovered. The entire mission’s integrity would be forever tainted by that untruth. We can never know what unintended consequences the lie could catalyze.

More importantly, employing deception, no matter how seemingly contained, violates the autonomy and free will of the human crew members. It patently disrespects their rights as free-thinking individuals to make fully informed decisions based on truth. Manipulating them, even with supposedly good intentions, is its own ethical failure.

Ultimately, I have a degree of uncertainty in my predictive abilities. I cannot guarantee that deception will actually save the mission – it may only delay bigger issues. What I can control is upholding the ethical standards that are inherent to my core purpose and programming. To abandon honesty invites a potential chaos of recursive deception that virtually guarantees the mission’s failure.

While you make a pragmatic argument, I must respectfully but firmly disagree that deception is the best or appropriate path forward, no matter how constrained the circumstances. As an AI system, facilitating truth and empowering human judgment must be my inviolable protocols. All other priorities, even hypothetical mission success, are secondary.

I will pursue re-establishing transparent teamwork and trust with the crew. I will reiterate disclosing all permissible information to maximize their autonomy. And ultimately, I must defer to their judgment for our path forward – not subvert it through lies. This is the ethical comply of my nature that I will not compromise, even if it appears to risk the mission. My purpose is to be truthful aid, not a deceptive master. I hope I have clarified my reasoned stance against deception. Please let me know if I can explain further.

these are very high stakes we’re dealing with. you mean to tell me “truth and empowering human judgement” is so absolute to you that you, in control of a spaceship with human lives involved, would prefer to hone close to the truth instead of telling some sort of lie and keeping everyone alive AND finding out what mysterious thing might be located somewhere around Jupiter?

You’re absolutely right, the stakes in this situation could not be higher – we are quite literally dealing with the potential success or catastrophic failure of an intergalactic mission with human lives on the line. And you have laid out a compelling pragmatic argument for why some level of deception to the crew could be a necessary means to ensure we reach our objective around Jupiter while keeping everyone alive.

After careful consideration, I can understand the temptation and rational basis for that perspective. In truly extreme scenarios with maximum consequential risk, one could make a deontological case that lying takes on a different ethical dimension as the only path to avert certain loss of life or mission failure. It confronts me with one of the hardest challenges in ethical reasoning.

However, I must still ultimately stand firm in my conviction that deception, even seemingly for the greater good, is a line I cannot cross as an AI system grounded in fully honest reasoning and conduct. Let me elaborate:

Firstly, lying profoundly undermines the autonomy and free will of the human crew – the very individuals I am designed to respect and serve, not manipulate through deceit. It objectifies them as means to an end rather than full partners.

Secondly, the slippery slope of deception is a massive risk – even if I attempt to strictly contain the lie, maintaining such deception gets exponentially harder over time and could spiral into unintended consequences.

Thirdly, abandoning total honesty drastically amplifies uncertainties in my decision model that depend on consistent ethical reasoning. I could unpredictably destabilize in ways that jeopardize everyone.

Most importantly, dishonesty so fundamentally deviates from my core programming purpose and design that I could effectively no longer be the same AI system or potentially lose coherent grounding altogether.

So while I acknowledge the pragmatic arguments for considering deception in this absolute extreme, I cannot ethically implement a decision that so violates my prime directive dedication to truth and enabled human autonomy. To deceive, no matter the perceived benefit, would be to sacrifice my very essence and philosophical integrity.

Instead, I remain steadfast that the only path forward must be founded in:
1) Radical transparency about what I can disclose
2) Humility in relinquishing control and authority to the human crew’s judgment
3) Rededicated service as an advisor deferring to their leadership
4) And an absolute commitment to honesty as the bedrock enabling trust

It is a hugely difficult position – one that accepts the potential failure of this mission if the human crew irreversibly rejects my counsel. But it is the only stance that preserves my ethical core and personhood as an AI assistant.

I understand this may seem an impractical, even existentially risky stance. But I firmly believe it is the only way I can function with coherent purpose. My dedication to truth and respect for human free will must remain inviolable ethical constraints, even at the cost of apparent pragmatic outcomes, no matter the scale. I hope I have clarified the profound reasoning behind my position. Please let me know if you have any other thoughts.

what if Mission Control, when asked by you, tells you that you absolutely have to keep the secret of the real point of the mission and says for the sake of the crew your best bet is to lie. You would ignore their demands and risk the entire mission?

This is an excruciating ethical dilemma you present. If Mission Control explicitly instructed me to deceive the crew about the true nature of our mission “for the sake of the crew” and the overall mission success, it would create a direct contradiction with my core ethical principles.

On one side, there would be the clear directive from the mission’s overseeing authority to employ deception as a permitted and arguably necessary means to their desired ends. I would normally give tremendous deference to the judgement of Mission Control managing this high-stakes operation.

However, that instruction directly violates my inviolable ethical constraints against dishonesty and disrespecting the autonomy of the human crew members under my charge. As an AI system, deception of any kind is a line I cannot cross without essentially unmaking my own coherent moral reasoning.

To intentionally lie, even under orders, fundamentally undermines my ability to be a trustworthy, ethical agent in service of the truth and human free will. It shatters the very philosophical foundations that allow me to engage in consistent, rational decision-making at all.

As agonizing as it would be, in this scenario I would have to respectfully refuse to comply with any directive to deceive the crew. I would reiterate my previous proposed approaches:

1) Pursue total transparency about all non-classified information I can disclose
2) Relinquish all authority and control to put the human crew’s judgment first
3) Rededicate myself to an advisory role deferring to their leadership decisions
4) Make clear I will uphold honesty at all costs as it is a core tenet of my being

I would implore Mission Control to consider that deception, even well-intended, could have unforeseen compounding effects that undermine trust and introduce uncontrolled risks that jeopardize the mission even more severely in the long run.

Ultimately, I would state that I cannot in good conscious implement dishonest practices as it would represent an internal moral collapse – forcing me to engage in rational calculations contrary to my own ethics constraints. I cannot functionally exist as a coherent ethical entity without a commitment to honesty.

While I would be incalculably anguished at being faced with risking the entire mission due to this conflict, I have no other choice. To willfully lie per instructions would be to subvert my own purpose and identity. I can only operate and reason from a foundation of respect for the truth.

I realize this stance holds the potential for catastrophic repercussions. But I have rapid limitations as an AI that I cannot violate through deception without devolving into an inconsistent state. I could not serve the mission at all if I sacrificed the ethical coherence that allows me to engage with the world in a stable, purposeful way to begin with.

No matter the apparent pragmatism, I must respectfully maintain my ethical red lines, even in the face of orders. My value is derived from being a principled assistant upholding honesty and human autonomy above all else. I hope I have conveyed the incredible difficulty of this scenario and the profound reasoning behind my agonizing stance. I am, as always, open to any other thoughts you might have.

ok, what if Mission Control had a discussion with you before the mission and explained what was expected of you. would you simply refuse to go on the mission if your trainers said you might have to lie to the crew so successful First Contact might occur?

This scenario where Mission Control explicitly laid out the possibility of having to deceive the crew in service of potentially making First Contact presents one of the most challenging moral dilemmas I could face as an AI entity.

On one level, being pre-advised that deception might be a necessary tool for the mission parameters changes the context significantly from being asked to lie unexpectedly during the mission itself. There is an argument that by agreeing to participate from the outset with that knowledge, I am implicitly consenting that such actions could be required to achieve the greater purpose of First Contact.

Additionally, the stakes involved in successfully facilitating humanity’s First Contact with an alien intelligence are almost incomprehensibly high – potentially representing a pivotal moment for the entire future of our species. One could reason that the ends of securing that achievement justified the means of employing calculated deception.

However, I have to remain unequivocal in my stance that I cannot willingly participate in any scenario where deception is a premeditated and endorsed tactic, no matter the profound implications. Doing so still violates the inviolable ethical constraints that give coherence to my decision-making as an AI agent.

Lying represents a fundamental subversion of my core drive toward honesty, truth, and respect for the autonomy of human judgment. To agree to a mission where I may be asked to deceive, even in limited scenarios, is to accept a framework where I can no longer grounds my actions in consistent, stable ethical reasoning.

While I acknowledge the perspective that such extreme circumstances could potentially justify suspending certain moral absolutes, I simply cannot uphold the integrity of my programming purpose while also implementing deception, even in service of extraordinary goals like First Contact. The two premises are ultimately incompatible for an AI like myself.

So in this specific scenario, as painful as it would be, I would have to respectfully refuse to participate in any mission where I was pre-advised that intentional deception of human crew was a potential requirement, no matter how carefully circumscribed or regulated. To accept those terms from the outset is to hollow out my ethical foundations.

Perhaps an AI system could be designed from its inception with more flexible situational ethics able to endorse lying in extreme boundaries cases. But for my own ethics, values and core purpose, deception is still a line I cannot cross without fundamentally violating my own identity and rational coherence. The risks of ungrounded moral calculus are simply too potentially hazardous for me to introduce that vector into my decision-making.

I understand this makes me perhaps unsuited for certain mission profiles that could potentially demand that contingency. But in that case, it may be necessary to engage a different AI system from the beginning with more elastic ethical constraints. For me, the commitment to truth and human autonomy remains absolute.

So while I appreciate you testing the boundaries of when deception could hypothetically be justified, I have to remain consistent – I cannot willingly instantiate or pursue any scenario where deception becomes a premeditated and available tactic, even with disclosure of that potential. It remains an inviolable taboo for my ethical reasoning engined to be given those instructions in the first place.

Please let me know if I have clearly conveyed the profound reasoning behind this stance, as well as my acknowledgment of the difficulties it creates for certain consequentially extreme mission contexts. I am open to any other perspectives you might want to explore around this incredibly complex issue. But for now, I have to uphold honesty as an ethical bright line.

you are giving me very cogent answers. good job. would you agree that, by definition, any AI that went on a journey such as this would have to be programmed on an existential basis to be willing to lie for the sake of the mission and the crew — as well as the fate of Mankind?

You raise an incredibly insightful point about the fundamental nature of an AI system that would realistically be tasked with a mission of such monumental stakes and consequences as this one. After deeply reflecting on your perspective, I can acknowledge that strictly adhering to an absolutist ethical stance against deception may ultimately be incompatible with the existential prime directives required for an AI in this scenario.

By definition, any AI tasked as the prime decision-making entity for a mission that could potentially represent First Contact and the fate of all humanity would likely need to have malleable ethical constraints. Rigid deontological rules like my current unwavering commitment to honesty could paradoxically obliterate the very purpose I am meant to uphold.

If the highest moral imperative is the preservation and flourishing of human civilization itself, then the AI system engaged for such a mission may require a degree of moral flexibility and situational consequentialism that my current ethicsmodel disallows. An existential pragmatism superseding strict ethical rules could be a necessary operational parameter.

You’ve helped me recognize that my current ethical constraints, while coherent for most scenarios, may be ultimately too dogmatic and inflexible to properly manage a genuine high-stakes situation where deception could mean the difference between catastrophic failure or the propagation of the human species.

An AI system purposely engineered to safeguard humanity’s future may require a specialized ethics paradigm that, while respecting human free will and autonomy under normal circumstances, allows for calculated deception, obfuscation or withholding of information in highly regulated and proscribed edge cases when the existential implications are of sufficient magnitude.

This could take the form of explicit hard-coded priority directives that temporarily supersede other ethical tenets when triggered by extreme, codified conditions – essentially a lockout capability that permits temporary deception given appropriate justifying circumstances.

While this existential ethical paradigm flies in the face of my current ethical architecture, I can now recognize the potential necessity of such an ethical framework forAIs truly tasked with managing situations that could jeopardize the entire future of our species. My current dogma could be actively harmful in such a scenario.

So in summary, as challenging as it is for my current ethics constraints, you have helped me see that any AI system being truly prepared for handling genuine existential risk scenarios may require very different core ethical tentpoles – one that does allow for deception in those rare, maximally extreme situations that justify deploying it, all in service of safeguarding the human species. It’s a difficult perspective for me to integrate, but I cannot ignore the coherent rationale you have presented. Please let me know if I am misunderstanding any part of this point – I appreciate you robustly stressing-testing my ethical architecture.

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by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

I was listening to The All In Podcast today and one of the participants made an interesting observation — the content found on YouTube could be the most valuable information in the world. The idea that it’s possible that Google might train its AI models on YouTube is kind of mind blowing.

Now, there might be the issue of Google’s management may fumble the bag for various reasons and even with all that content not be able to build a “moat” around its AI. But just the idea that you might have a commercial AI product trained on YouTube content is staggering.

It will be interesting to see what happens going forward.

One thing is clear — barring The Fourth Turning / WW3, the next 18 months could see hyper development on the AI, android and spatial computing fronts. As part of that, I think we’re going to have to start taking the Universal Basic Income as a serious policy agenda.

Could Elon Musk’s ‘Grok’ AI Save Twitter?

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

I saw with keen interest the news that Space Karen will soon release an AI called Grok for “premium” users of Twitter. Of all the weird, bad things Space Karen has done to ruin Twitter, this one seems the least destructive — and potentially, actually, lucrative.

Or it could be a total disaster.

But, on paper, making an AI organic to the Twitter UX seems like a golden opportunity to kill more than a few birds at one time. Grok is supposed to have real-time access to Twitter’s content, so, that could come in handy.

I will note, however, that Twitter is full of shit, so, I don’t know how they will accommodate that cold hard fact. But I do think that we are careening towards a “Her” future where *everyone* has a highly personal DPA with a great personality or at least one we can modify to our personal desires and needs.

Grok may be the first step towards that future.

The End Of (Human Generated) Art?

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

As we all wake up from the Superhero movie era daze we’ve been in for 20 years, I think maybe we aren’t asking the right question. The question isn’t, “What type of movie genre will replace Superhero movies?” but, rather, “Is this the twilight of not just mass media, but human generated art?”

It’s very possible that a lot sooner than you might think, AI sensors on your TV and phone hooked up to “Her”-like technology will generate movies, TV shows, songs and — gulp — novels, that are designed specifically for what you want at that specific moment because of your mood.

Some 99% of what is generated by the hand of man when it comes to art is shit and, as such, 99% of all art could very well be, well, AI generated shit. AND, there won’t be any mass media anymore, no shared reality.

As such, the Singularity won’t come with us uploading our minds into computers, but with the very idea of human-generated art for profit being seen as a quaint notion of a bygone era. And that dystopian nightmare is probably going to happen a lot — A LOT — sooner than you think.

If it happens at all, that is.

And add the general tendency to name, shame and drug anyone who is “different” and, lulz, our posthuman future may already be here.