(New, Proposed) Gawker: The Social Network That Makes You Earn Your Noise

A flight of fancy about what comes after the feed


Every few years someone declares they’re building “the new Reddit,” and every few years we get… a slightly different Reddit. The same infinite scroll, the same comment boxes, the same insular communities that reward the chronically online and punish the casually curious.

I keep thinking about what we actually lost when we left Usenet behind. Not the technical stack — good riddance to NNTP — but the texture of it. Full pages you actually composed, not containers for hot takes. Threads that branched and breathed. The sense that reading and writing were serious acts, not reflexes.

So here’s a thought experiment: Gawker. (Yes, I know about the old one. This is different. Work with me.)

Posts, Not Products

In Gawker, everything starts with a Post. Not a tweet, not a threadstarter — a full page. Rich text, images, the whole canvas. You write into it the way you might write into a Google Doc, because inline editing is native here. The Post is the unit of attention, not the user, not the community. You subscribe to individual Posts. When they update — new reply, new fork, new edit — your newsfeed lights up.

This matters. On Reddit, you subscribe to a subreddit and hope the algorithm surfaces the good stuff. On Gawker, you follow conversations you’ve chosen to care about. The discovery problem solves itself: interesting Posts attract cross-cutting attention regardless of which Group they live in. No more wondering why r/Space and r/Engineering never talk to each other.

Groups Are Cheap, And That’s The Point

Posts live in Groups, but Groups are trivial to create — tied to your ID, instant, no approval process. Redundancy isn’t a bug; it’s oxygen. Multiple Groups about the same topic keeps populations smaller, discussions manageable, cultures distinct. You want ten different “Climate Science” Groups with ten different moderation philosophies? Great. The Posts carry the weight, not the containers.

You Don’t Get To Post Just Because You Signed Up

Here’s the friction: you earn the right to create Posts. New users get a weekly allowance of points. Spend them to publish. Run out, and you’re reading, replying, editing — but not originating, not until the next week or until other users gift you points for quality contributions.

Yes, this adds admin overhead. Yes, “rogue” point-givers might distort things. But the alternative is worse: the flood of drive-by posting that makes every platform feel like the same shouting room. The point system manages expectations from day one. You’re not entitled to an audience here. You build to one.

The Fork in the Road

Discussions drift. On Gawker, you can fork a thread — spin a sub-conversation into its own Post, carrying the history but opening new terrain. This is how Posts reproduce. This is how the graph stays alive without collapsing under the weight of ancient threads resurrecting themselves. (Though honestly? Sometimes they should. Let the dead breathe.)

The NYT Thing (Or: Why Embedded Is Wrong)

One last fancy: imagine pushing a New York Times article into Gawker as a Post itself, not embedded, not linked — the actual text, now editable, annotated, remixed. The original becomes substrate. The thread becomes collaborative investigation, translation, annotation, refutation. The newsfeed shows you when the article itself has been edited, when new branches of analysis appear.

This is legally terrifying. I know. It’s also the only thing I’ve described that feels genuinely new — not better Reddit, not revived Usenet, but a different shape of attention entirely.

Build It?

I won’t. I can’t code my way out of a paper bag, and vibe-coding my way to a functional prototype feels like asking for humiliation. Maybe in a few years I’ll just tell my Knowledge Navigator to mock it up and see if the dream survives contact with interaction design.

But the spec is here. The questions are interesting. Someone else can steal it, or wait for the landscape to catch up.

Either way, I’m tired of platforms that treat writing like a side effect of engagement. I want one that treats engagement as a side effect of writing.


A Thoughtful Social Network Without the Learning Curve

Every few years, someone proposes a return to the “good parts” of the early internet: forums with depth, threads that actually make sense, long-form writing, real discussion. Almost all of these efforts fail—not because the ideas are bad, but because they forget one crucial fact: Twitter won because you can jump in instantly. No manuals, no etiquette primers, no tribal initiation rituals. You open it, you read, you post.

The challenge, then, isn’t to recreate Usenet, forums, or even Reddit. It’s to combine their strengths with the frictionless on-ramp that modern users expect, without importing the dysfunction that comes with engagement-at-all-costs feeds.

One hypothetical service—let’s call it Gawker, purely for fun—takes that challenge seriously.

At first glance, Gawker looks deceptively familiar. There’s a robust newsfeed, designed explicitly to flatten the experience for newcomers. You don’t need FAQs, tutorials, or cultural decoding to understand what’s happening. You open the app or site and you see active conversations, well-written posts, and clear examples of how people interact. The feed isn’t the destination; it’s the doorway. Its job is to teach by showing, not instructing.

Underneath that smooth surface, however, is a structure far closer to classic Usenet than to Twitter or Reddit.

Content on Gawker is organized into Groups, which anyone can create around any topic. Inside those Groups are threads, in the original sense: persistent, deeply nested conversations that grow over time rather than vanish into an endless scroll. Threads aren’t treated as disposable reactions; they’re treated as ongoing intellectual objects.

The biggest conceptual leap, though, is that posts are living documents. Instead of frozen text followed by endless corrective replies, posts can be edited inline, collaboratively, much like a Google Doc. Errors can be fixed where they appear. Arguments can evolve. Clarifications don’t have to be buried three screens down in the replies. The result is a system that encourages convergence instead of perpetual disagreement.

This single design choice makes Gawker fundamentally different from Reddit. On Reddit, the best version of an idea is fragmented across comments, edits, and moderator interventions. On Gawker, the best version of an idea can actually exist as a thing.

The system goes further by allowing external content—say, a New York Times article—to be imported directly in its native web format. Once inside the platform, that article becomes a shared object: highlighted, annotated, discussed, and even collaboratively refined by users with sufficient standing. Instead of comment sections tacked onto the bottom of the web, discussion happens inside the text itself, where context lives.

That brings us to another key difference: earned participation.

Unlike Twitter, where posting is the default action, Gawker treats speaking as something you grow into. New users start with reading and lightweight interaction. Posting privileges are earned through demonstrated good faith—helpful edits, thoughtful annotations, constructive participation. A point or reputation system exists not to gamify outrage, but to limit trolling by making contribution a privilege rather than an entitlement.

This is not Reddit’s karma system, which often reinforces insular subcultures and performative behavior. Nor is it Google+, which attempted to impose structure without clear incentives or cultural gravity. Gawker’s reputation system is quiet, gradual, and contextual. Influence is tied to quality over time, and decays if unused, preventing permanent elites while still rewarding care and effort.

Most importantly, Gawker is designed to avoid insularity by default. Threads are not trapped inside Groups. High-quality discussions can surface across topical boundaries through the feed, allowing ideas to travel without being reposted or crossposted. Groups become places where conversations originate, not gated communities that hoard them.

This is where the platform diverges most sharply from Reddit. Reddit’s subreddits tend to become cultural silos, each with invisible rules and defensive norms that punish outsiders. Gawker’s feed-centric discovery model exposes users to multiple communities organically, reducing the shock of entry and the tendency toward tribalism.

In short, this hypothetical platform isn’t trying to resurrect a dead internet era. It’s trying to answer a very modern question: how do you preserve depth without reintroducing barriers?

Twitter solved ease of entry but sacrificed coherence. Reddit preserved structure but buried newcomers under norms and rules. Google+ tried to split the difference and ended up pleasing no one. Gawker’s bet is that you can lead with simplicity, reward patience, and let seriousness emerge naturally.

If successful, it wouldn’t feel like homework. It would feel like Twitter on day one—and like something much more durable once you decide to stay.

Reviving Usenet’s Depth with Zero-Friction Modern UX: A Hypothetical Platform Idea

In the early days of the internet, Usenet stood out as one of the purest forms of decentralized, topic-driven discussion. Newsgroups organized conversations into deep, hierarchical threads that could evolve over weeks, months, or even years. Tools like TIN made it navigable (if not exactly user-friendly), but the experience rewarded thoughtful, long-form participation over quick hits.

Fast-forward to today: platforms like Reddit and X (formerly Twitter) dominate, yet many longtime internet users miss aspects of that older model—robust threading, persistent group-based topics, and discussions that build collaboratively rather than chase virality. A hypothetical new service could bridge this gap by modernizing Usenet’s core strengths while adopting the effortless onboarding that made Twitter explode.

Core Concept: Groups, Posts, and Living Threads

The platform would center on user-created Groups—open topics anyone could spin up on any subject, much like Usenet newsgroups or Reddit subreddits. Content lives as Posts within these groups, organized into classic threaded conversations (with full reply nesting, quoting, and context preservation).

What sets it apart:

  • Full-page, distraction-free input for composing posts and replies, echoing modern writing tools rather than cramped comment boxes.
  • Inline collaborative editing on posts, similar to Google Docs. Anyone with permission (or in open mode) could refine, expand, or add citations in real time. Threads become evolving documents—think crowd-sourced analysis of news articles, evolving wikis within discussions, or collaborative essays.

External content could be imported (e.g., pulling in a New York Times piece via its web format) and then annotated or edited inline by the community, turning static journalism into a living debate.

The Merit-Based Gate: Quality Over Chaos

To combat trolling and low-effort noise, participation would use a lightweight point system. New users start with a small budget of points to post or reply. High-quality contributions (voted by the community) earn more points; spam or toxicity burns them quickly. This creates a soft meritocracy—similar to reputation on Stack Overflow—where thoughtful posters gain influence and visibility without hard barriers like karma minimums.

The Secret Sauce: A Cross-Group Newsfeed as the Default Interface

Here’s where the idea diverges sharply from predecessors.

Reddit requires users to discover and join subreddits, learn community norms, build karma, and navigate silos. This creates a real learning curve and fosters insularity—once you’re deep in one subreddit, exposure to others often requires deliberate effort.

Google+ (RIP) tried Circles for sharing but still felt like a walled garden with limited threading depth and no strong collaborative editing.

X/Twitter wins on immediacy: no setup needed, just jump in and scroll a feed of short, real-time updates.

This hypothetical platform would borrow Twitter’s zero-friction entry by making a personalized newsfeed the primary homepage and entry point—not groups. Users subscribe to individual threads (not just groups), getting notifications for new replies or meaningful edits. The feed aggregates:

  • Updates from subscribed threads.
  • Algorithmically suggested rising or high-point threads across all groups.
  • Serendipitous discovery of diverse topics.

No mandatory group hunting, no FAQ needed to “get” the platform. New users land straight into an interesting, quality-filtered stream—chronological for subscriptions, boosted by community points for broader discovery. This flattens the experience: depth when you want it (dive into threads), effortless browsing when you don’t.

Why This Isn’t Just “Reddit Again” or “Google+ 2.0”

  • Reddit optimizes for votes and virality; threads often get buried, and subreddits create echo chambers with strict norms and low cross-pollination.
  • Google+ emphasized personal networks (Circles) over public, topic-first groups and lacked editable, collaborative posts.
  • This concept prioritizes thread longevity and collaboration over upvotes/downvotes. Inline editing turns posts into shared artifacts. The point system rewards substance, not memes. And the feed-first UX eliminates silos—content flows across groups naturally, exposing users to broader perspectives without forcing community-hopping.

In short: it’s Usenet reborn with Google Docs-style editing, a Twitter-like feed for instant access, and built-in quality gates to keep signal high. It could serve as a home for intellectuals, hobbyists, journalists, and anyone craving discussions that grow rather than scroll away.

Of course, execution matters—moderation for edit wars, anti-gaming on points, and scalable search/discovery would be key challenges. But the blueprint feels fresh: effortless entry + deep, editable, threaded substance.

But For The Want Of A Nail, Software Edition

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

I have a really cool social media platform rolling around in my mind that if I had the gumption I would at least try to “vibe code” into existence. Just to see if I could pull it off.

The platform, which I have thought through maybe a little bit too much, would use the UX / UI of the old Usenet system as a stepping off point, as inspiration. I think it would be a lot better than Facebook or Twitter and would not just be warmed over Reddit.

It would definitely be it’s own thing.

It’s a really interesting idea and by the time I can just tell my Knowledge Navigator to whip it up for me, no one will be interested traditional social media. So, I’m faced with something of a paradox.

Oh well. It was really entertaining to think about for a few years.

JUST FOR FUN: Introducing Gawker: The Social Media Revolution That Revives Usenet and Reinvents News

Social media is broken. News is broken. Online discourse is broken. What if we could fix all of them at once? What if we built a platform where the best aspects of Usenet, Wikipedia, and modern social media converged into something entirely new?

Welcome to Gawker, a platform where you don’t just consume content—you actively shape it.

The Core Idea: Groups, Posts, and Gawking

At its heart, Gawker is structured around Groups and Posts—a modern reimagining of the old Usenet TIN experience. But unlike Usenet, Gawker is centralized, curated, and designed for the modern web.

  • Groups: The backbone of the platform. Every discussion, every debate, every breaking news event unfolds in a Group. Groups can be personal (friends, interests) or public (news, cultural topics). Some are user-created, while others are curated by the Gawker editorial team to maintain quality and prevent spam.
  • Posts: Unlike Twitter’s short blurbs or Reddit’s comment chains, Gawker Posts are meant to be full-length, longform when necessary, and editable in-line. You’re not just commenting—you’re contributing to a growing, evolving conversation.
  • Gawking: The core mechanic of engagement. Before you can post in a Group, you must first gawk—that is, read, observe, and engage with discussions passively. This system weeds out trolls, spammers, and low-effort engagement, ensuring that only thoughtful, invested users shape the conversation.

Inline Editing: The Killer Feature

Imagine reading an article from The New York Times, The Guardian, or The Atlantic—but instead of just commenting below it, you can edit it inline, debate specific passages, and propose alternative takes right inside the article itself.

That’s the power of Gawker’s Inline Editing feature. Instead of a static comment section, each article becomes a live document, where approved users can highlight, annotate, and suggest improvements in a WYSIWYG editor. Media outlets benefit from increased engagement, real-time corrections, and transparent discourse—all while sharing ad revenue and subscriptions through our partnership model.

This feature takes media criticism, fact-checking, and collaborative journalism to an entirely new level. No more shouting into the void about bad reporting—now you can fix it.

Breaking News, Reimagined

Twitter revolutionized live news, but it’s become a chaotic, unreliable mess. Gawker takes it to the next level: real-time collaborative reporting inside structured Groups.

Here’s how breaking news works on Gawker:

  1. Anyone can create a Group dedicated to an unfolding event.
  2. Some Groups, run by journalists or trusted curators, get special visibility.
  3. Instead of fragmented tweets, journalists and experts co-write a live story, visible to thousands of gawkers who watch the reporting unfold in real-time.
  4. Trusted users can suggest edits, annotate facts, and even provide eyewitness updates.

It’s like a live Google Doc of breaking news, where transparency and accuracy take center stage. No more waiting for updates—the news is happening before your eyes.

AI-Powered Discovery & Moderation

Finding great conversations is hard, and moderation is even harder. Gawker solves both problems with AI-assisted Group discovery and engagement:

  • AI-Suggested Groups: Based on your interests, Gawker recommends Groups you should follow, ensuring you never miss a great conversation.
  • Smart Moderation: AI helps flag low-quality content, but human users make the final call. This ensures fair, transparent moderation, free from both spam and overreach.
  • Reputation-Based Privileges: Instead of arbitrary moderation bans, Gawker uses a reputation system: earn respect, get more control. Abuse it, lose it.

Reviving the Best of Usenet Culture

Gawker isn’t just another social media site—it’s a love letter to the golden age of the internet. We’re bringing back what made Usenet great, with modern tools to make it even better:

  • Deep Discussions: No more shallow engagement. Gawker’s post structure encourages long-form, thoughtful discussion.
  • Rich Metadata & Cross-Thread Referencing: Want to reference a debate from three years ago? Instant cross-thread linking keeps discussions alive.
  • User Reputation & Global Edit Privileges: The ultimate status symbol? The ability to edit anything—reserved only for Gawker’s most trusted users.

The Future of Social Media Starts Here

We’ve lost something in the transition from early internet forums to today’s algorithm-driven platforms. Gawker is about bringing it back—better than ever.

  • A space for serious discussion, collaborative media, and real-time news.
  • A platform where you don’t just react to content—you shape it.
  • A system that rewards thoughtful engagement, not outrage farming.

Are you ready to gawk? Let’s build the future of online discourse—together.

Reimagining Social Media: Could a ‘Collaborative, Long-Form’ Platform Be the Antidote to Information Overload?

We live in an age of information overload. The constant barrage of short-form content, fleeting updates, and algorithmic echo chambers can leave us feeling overwhelmed and disconnected. What if there was a different approach to social media, one that prioritized depth, collaboration, and thoughtful engagement?

This post explores a thought experiment: a new social media platform – tentatively named “Gawker” (a nod to the concept of observing and participating, and, yes, borrowing from the blog world) – that reimagines the core principles of online interaction. It draws inspiration from the structured, threaded discussions of Usenet’s TIN reader, but updates it for the modern, collaborative web.

The Core Idea: Open Collaboration, Controlled Access

Gawker is built on a few key principles:

  • Long-Form Content: Unlike the character limits of many platforms, Gawker embraces long-form posts, encouraging in-depth analysis, detailed reporting, and nuanced discussion. Think articles, essays, and even collaborative book chapters.
  • HTML-Based Rich Media: The platform fully supports embedded images, videos, interactive elements, and rich formatting, moving beyond the limitations of plain text.
  • Group-Centric Organization: Everything revolves around Groups. Users organize their connections and interests into Groups, creating curated streams of relevant content. Onboarding requires this grouping, forcing intentionality.
  • Real-Time Collaborative Editing: This is the game-changer. Posts are treated like “living documents,” collaboratively edited in real-time, similar to Google Docs. Imagine journalists, experts, and citizen reporters working together on a breaking news story, in public.
  • “Gawking” vs. Contributing: Anyone can observe (gawk) at content within a Group. However, contributing to a Group you don’t own requires proving your “worthiness” – through reputation, credentials, an application process, or a trial period. This fosters quality control and prevents spam.
  • Decentralized Moderation: Group owners are responsible for setting the rules and moderating content within their Groups. This distributes the moderation burden and allows for diverse community standards.
  • Fluid Groups: The service would make it very easy to create and to dissolve Groups.

The Potential Benefits:

  • Combating Information Overload: The Group-centric structure and long-form content encourage focus and depth, cutting through the noise of traditional social media.
  • Fostering Thoughtful Discussion: The platform is designed to promote reasoned debate, in-depth analysis, and constructive criticism.
  • Empowering Citizen Journalism: Gawker provides a powerful platform for independent reporters and citizen journalists to collaborate and share their work.
  • Real-Time Fact-Checking: The open, collaborative editing process allows for immediate correction of errors and debunking of misinformation.
  • Building Collective Knowledge: Groups can become repositories of expertise, collaboratively built and refined over time.
  • Edit, edit, edit: Unlike most social media services, everything is editable, from Groups to Posts.

The Challenges:

This model isn’t without its challenges. We need to consider:

  • Onboarding Friction: The mandatory grouping and “worthiness” requirements could be a barrier to entry for some users.
  • Moderation Complexity: While decentralized, moderation still requires significant effort from Group owners.
  • Scalability: Supporting real-time collaborative editing on large-scale posts is a technical hurdle.
  • Potential for Misuse: Like any platform, Gawker could be used for malicious purposes (trolling, harassment, spreading misinformation). Robust reporting and blocking mechanisms are crucial.
  • Copyright issues: Posting copyrighted materials, without permission.

The Disruptive Potential:

Gawker represents a radical departure from the dominant social media paradigm. It’s a bet on depth over breadth, quality over quantity, and collaboration over individual broadcasting. It’s a platform designed for creators, thinkers, and informed citizens, not just passive consumers.

Imagine:

  • Breaking news unfolding in real-time, collaboratively reported by journalists and eyewitnesses.
  • Experts in a field co-authoring a comprehensive analysis of a complex issue, with readers able to follow the process and contribute feedback.
  • Communities building shared knowledge bases, collaboratively curated and constantly updated.

This is a vision of social media that prioritizes informed discourse, collaborative creation, and transparent information sharing. It’s a platform that embraces the messy, complex reality of the digital age, and attempts to harness its power for good.

Bluesky Suffers From WELLitis

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

I really like Twitter successor Bluesky, but for one thing — it seems like its populated with a bunch of very normal, very stable, very well educated people who all know each other and look down on kooks like me.

In short, it’s a modern version of The WELL from the 90s.

While all the cool kids used The WELL back in the day, I was running with scissors with riff-raff of Usenet. I always wanted to join The WELL and, yet, as an adult….I’m glad I didn’t.

And Bluesky is exactly like the WELL. It’s inward looking and no one ever does anything weird no no reasons. And, as best I can tell, there’s no “black Bluesky” which sucks. Most of the best memes online come from Black Twitter.

Whatever.

The Fate of Google’s Usenet Archive & Generative AI

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

As far as I know, Google still has a decades worth of Usenet archives. Even though the most useful elements of Usenet are very old, I do think you could maybe use all those witty words from the Golden Age of Usenet from the last 1970s to mid 1990s to at least give Gemini a sense of humor.

Or not.

What do I know. I just find it something that either Google has already done or they might do in the future.

The Lost Dream Of Social Media

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

The social media era is over. There’s just no buzz around it anymore. After a lot of crypto hype, we’re now fully in the AI Revolution. But occasionally, I find myself mulling what could have been, especially given how fucked up Twitter is now because of Space Karen.

There are a few key elements that could have been included in a new social media service that I think would have made it a success. One is, having some sort of paid editorial staff. If you had people who were paid by your social media service specifically to churn out high quality reporting, I think that would be a key advantage over other, similar services.

Also, I continue to believe that could have be useful is the idea of Groups. Now, of course, some will say that was tried with Google+’s “Circles” but that’s not at all my vision. In my version of things, everyone would have the ability to create as many “Groups” as they liked and even be able to manage who might be able to Post in each Group.

You would have a full page Post to work with and threaded discussions of those Posts.

But, alas, I just don’t see any of this happening. The moment is over. We’ve all moved on.

Burn, Reddit, Burn

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

I got no beef with Reddit. Live long and prosper, you Usenet knock off. But I do think it’s telling that if both Twitter and Reddit implode that my personal vision for a service that uses updated Usenet UX / UI concepts becomes something more viable.

If I was smart enough — which I’m not — I would somehow figure out a way to use AI to design my dream platform that is based on Groups and allows for pull page posts and robust threading.

And…yet…that moment has passed. It’s just not viable anymore. We’re now in the age of XR, crypto and AI. Lulz. No one gives a shit about something as quaint and prosaic as a social media platform…based on a 30 year old concept no one cares about anymore.

Anyway. I do wish there was something a bit more like Usenet out there to use. I think by the time Reddit came around I was just too old to be willing to wade into its many subcultures. And I was so weened on Usenet back in the day that neither Twitter nor Reddit really appealed to me.

I’m old and I hate it.

Godspeed, Reddit. I hope you figure out all your API bullshit.