Trumplandia 2025

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

There are a number of basic problems with Trump’s dreams of making America a dystopian hellscape and deporting 20 million people. Let’s go through them.

Building Out Infrastructure
To do what Trump wants to do, which is deport at least 1 million people a year (if I’ve heard correctly), he would need some sort of infrastructure to do that. I’ve heard that one option he’s thinking of us weaponizing the National Guard of Red States to swoop in and snatch people off the street in Blue States. I’m sure THAT will go well. Ugh.

Rounding Up People

The next issue is actually tracking down and snatching people off the street to put them in the camp. Talk about bad optics. Even if the press is no longer free, people will see with their own two eyes people being napped by Red State National Guard — who might be ordered to shoot anyone who stands in the way. That, unto itself, would add a lot of complications.

Housing and Feeding People (Camps)
Once you get all your people into camps, how are you going to feed them and make sure the camps…don’t turn into concentration camps? What if there are riots at the camps? What then? What if there are American citizens who got somehow sucked into these campus? What then?

Repatriation
Many of the people you are rounding up and sending back to their home countries have never actually been in those countries for decades. And some of them were born in the US and because you’re a dick, by 2025 you’ve done away with birthright citizenship, you’re sending them back to where their PARENTS came from. What happens if you can’t repatriate a lot of them? Are you just going to keep them housed the camps forever? Won’t you be tempted to….solve that particular problem?

Whenever I’ve brought up these issues in the past with my far more conservative relatives — whom I love dearly — they just wave them off and say they will “somehow” be addressed. These are not abstract issues for me — I could very well see me getting put into one of those camps for no other reason than I won’t shut the fuck up about what a cocksucker Tyrant Trump is.

Apocalypse 2025

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner


I don’t know what to tell you, folks. I sometimes think it’s better to get it over with and let Trump win in 2024 and take our chances. I say this not because I want Trump to win, but the fact that if he loses in 2024, we’re just going to punt our problems down the road like we did in 2020.

Trump will be the frontrunner for the 2028 Republican nomination if he loses in 2024 and doesn’t manage to start a civil war in the process. So, why not just have at it.

Trump, unto himself, could cause some pretty catastrophic things to happen in the United States. It will not be pretty. It will be jaw dropping and dystopian. I no longer have any hope that the good guys will win, either, not without a civil war.

So, pray.

But For Macro Historical Trends Helping Him, I Would Believe Trump Has Setup The Conditions For A Biden Blow Out In November

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

I’ve spent A LOT of time writing and talking about a lot of dystopian hellscapes that might happen in the next 18 months. And, yet, Trump keeps doing things that suggest he is setting up the conditions for a massive Biden blowout in the fall.

His latest dumb move has been to gut the Republican National Committee and to replace all its staff with MAGA toadies — including his daughter-in-law. That’s a “Not Great, Bob,” situation if you want to win an election. And YET, there are severe macro things happening that are warping the election process to the point that, lulz, Trump is still just 60,000 votes in five swing states away from winning.

And, what’s more, if he does lose, there’s nothing to stop him from ranting about the need for a national divorce and, unto himself, causing a civil war.

So. I dunno. I just don’t know what to tell you. It could still go either way. I do think we’re probably going to just slip peacefully into autocracy — but for what an abject idiot Trump is. He could be re-elected and be the only person in such a position who would thrash around so much that he would cause the first-ever deposing of a president by the military after a General Strike because he is just so absolutely dumb and tyrannical.

Hopefully, of course, it won’t come to that.

Our Bumpy Future

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

Here are some events we have to worry about going forward.

Biden’s Age
From here on out, we have to worry about how old Biden is. He’s in his 80s now and, well, yikes. Harris, should she — God forbid — ever become POTUS unexpectedly, would eventually grow into the position but it would be a very bumpy transition.

Trump Might Win (or Lose)
No matter what, because of how divided we are, no matter what, win or lose, we may have to deal with another coup attempt by Trump. If Trump wins, then he might go full tyrant on us and then there might be a Blue Revolution that leads to a Red Civil War. Ugh.

Trump Will Run Again If He Loses In 2024
There is every reason to believe that even if we defeat fascism and Trump in 2024, that he will run AGAIN in 2028. All he has to do is win once and we’re fucked. So, if Biden can run at his age, then ding-dong Trump sure as hell will do the same thing four years from now if he loses — even if he’s in prison.

So…we’re in for a very unstable future.

‘Radical Moderates’ Will Be Key To Deposing Tyrant Trump If It Comes To That

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

One of the many differences between living in South Korea and the United States is how fast things move in South Korea relative to the US. In the US, things change gradually then all at once after years of not much going on. Usually, this abrupt change happens around the four year election cycle.

What is interesting is the issue of what are we going to should Trump get re-elected and proceed to go “full tyrant” in 2025. Everything hinges on what I would call pissed off Traditionalists — Radical Moderates. If these principled conservatives are so aghast that the dystopian hellscape that people like me have been ranting about and predicted when it comes to Trump has actually come about….maybe we could depose Tyrant Trump?

But that would be just the beginning of the horrors we would face — deposing Trump would just mean a civil war because Red States, who support Trump’s tyranny, would get really upset and would start to leave the Union.

So, I don’t know what to tell you, folks.

I guess I can just hope that I can get refugee status and get the fuck out the country in some way — maybe as a published author?

The Conditions Are There For A Very Dark Future

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

The Republican Party has radicalized so much that there is a pretty good chance that the moment they have the ability to turn us into an autocratic white Christian ethnostate, they will. They want to replace the administrative state with the moralistic state.

The big question is, of course, what happens when they catch the car? What will Blues do? I throw around ideas like a revolution or civil war, but I don’t know. It’s possible we just slide into a white Christian ethnostate and that’s that. There will be a huge brain drain, a Constitutional Convention and, lulz, we ally with Russia, Hungary and Turkey going forward.

That seems like a very real possibility.

Or, put another way — we’re headed into a very unstable and dark future with our eyes wide open. We know where we’re headed, and, yet, we are lulzing it.

2025: Trump As Tyrant

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

While all the conditions are there for Trump to lose, the conditions are ALSO there for Trump to win. The key thing is if Trump does all the crazy tyrannical shit he vows to do in 2025, what will be the reaction? Because that is the thing that not enough people have been willing to address.

If Trump wins, leading up to Trump being sworn in, a lot of smug Twitter liberals will leave the country in a panic. But that will leave us Poors to deal with Tyrant Trump. One issue is what will happen when on “day one” starts to round up undocumented people in hopes up putting them in camps and deporting them.

Now, a lot that may happen depends on who controls the House. If Trump goes full tyrant, then he will probably be promptly impeached if Democrats control the House. Then there is a possibility that maybe, just maybe there might be some sort of Women’s Strike or General Strike on the part of Blues to pressure the Senate to actually do its job and get rid of Trump.

But the thing is, Trump would have to get really, really, really bad — push the entire nation to the breaking point — for something as dramatic as a Blue General Strike to be successful. It would be a dark, chaotic moment in America’s over two centuries of history.

And if we managed to impeach Trump successfully because of the pressure of a General Strike, then there’s a chance that not only could his veep be the person who actually turns us into an autocracy, it could also start a civil war when Red States leave the union.

So, I don’t know what to tell you. The next 18 months could be totally fucked up and historic in some pretty astonishing ways.

Everything Sucks

by Ender

As of right now, malignant ding-dong Trump is 60,000 votes in five swing states away from turning the United States into an autocracy. And, barring some sort of Black Swan event, Trump is going to (probably) win and start to round up 20 million people.

The camps will open. People like me be rounded up and probably shot in the back of the head by an ICE agent because I refuse to stop calling Trump a fat fucking cocksucker.

About 1 million smug, wealthy Twitter liberals will flee the country until Trump — or his successor — starts to aggressively make it more difficult to leave the country in an effort to stop the massive American Brain Drain.

The press will be coopted and neutered. And we’ll just take it for granted that we are no longer a democracy and people will stop voting. We will become just another autocracy like Hungary, Russia or Turkey.

There is, of course, a very small chance that Trump, specifically, will be such a tyrant in such a quick amount of time that there is some sort of “Blue Revolution” and Trump is deposed, which will, in turn cause a Second American Civil War.

I find myself thinking about how I will survive this dystopian hellscape. All I know is I would rather die on my feet a free man than live my life on my knees a slave.

Fuck Trump. Fuck MAGA. And fuck you if you support either one.

Imaging The Conservative Movement After Blues Won A Second American Civil War

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

This is extremely speculative, but I it seems to me that IF — and this is a huge IF — there was some sort of Second American Civil War and Blues won and there was a Second Reconstruction….then I think The Lincoln Project would be see itself at the center of a re-imagined American conservative movement.

But a lot would depend on how bad any such Second American Civil War got. If we bombed ourselves into the Stone Age over “vibes” then it probably won’t make much difference one way or another for a few decades. But if we managed to topple Tyrant Trump in some sort of “Glorious Revolution” then some very interesting things might happen when our politics snapped back into place.

I continue, however, to think that we have two choices at the moment — either Trump wins and we slide peacefully into autocracy or he loses and we punt our political problems down the road another four years.

The other, sexier options, the ones involving civil war and revolution that I’ve written about at great length over the years…I just don’t see them happening at the moment. I don’t want them to happen and I don think they’re going to happen.

But I can’t predict the future.

Hard MAGA Power Vs. Soft Woke Power

by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner

One thing I’ve gleaned from talking to my far more conservative relatives — whom I love dearly — is their abject fear of some future tyranny coming not from the hard power of the state but the soft power of “woke corporations.”

Of course, they’re complicit in the rise of the American fascist corporate state because not only do they not take the looming fascism of MAGA seriously, but they because they, in general, agree with that fascism it would all be a lulz.

Not until the hard power of the MAGA fascist state is used to not only deport 20 million undocumented people — which they want — but to also murder me in cold blood — which they don’t want — will they take notice of how there is a definite difference between hard and soft power.

So, what happens is, conservatives would far rather conflate issues and get REALLY WORKED UP over the “abuses” of the woke than they would have to give serious answers to questions like, “What happens when the massive infrastructure built out to deport 20 million people is used to murder people you love?”

They usually either don’t answer, make a joked to change the subject or piviot to the latest conservative talking point.

It can be very, very frustrating.

The rise of a MAGA fascist state in the US is not an abstract to me — I’m really beginning to worry that if Trump becomes POTUS again that I’m going to be murdered in cold blood by an ICE agent — or whatever — because I simply will not, can not shut the fuck up about how I think Trump is a fat fuck cocksucker.

But my conservative relatives — whom I love dearly — just lulz all this. As long is those brown families are torn asunder at the border they’ll be content. As long as a stray trans person doesn’t get a free can of But Light, they will be content. As long as the social safety net is gutted and only fools and poors pay taxes, they will be content.

The list goes on.

It will be interesting to see what my fate is. If I’m lucky, I will be able to escape the country should Trump win re-election later this year.