by Shelt Garner
@sheltgarner
I have written at great length over the course of this blog’s existence about different possible civil war or revolution scenarios. At the moment, nothing has happened recently to make me think we might actually have a civil war. All we have is a lot of hot air on the part of the crybaby far Right.

But let’s yet again mull how a civil war might happen in the United States.
There are two major ways I can imagine a civil war happening. One is, Trump really goes at it in his war against Blue cities, someone throws a Molotov Cocktail and away we go. The country collapses into civil war as Trump so riles up Blue States that they start to leave the Union. Or, it could be what happened might be closer to a Blue revolution, depending on how things worked out.
Meanwhile, the OTHER way I could imagine there being a Second American Civil War is Trump really fucks hard with the 2026 or 2028 election to the point that enraged Blues leave the Union or have some sort of revolution type reaction.
Now, the issue is, it would have been Republicans who wanted to start a civil war had Trump lost the 2024 election. But, here we are. And there are a few weird, quirky ways that it might be Reds who started a civil war or revolution. Like, say Blues win the House and something magical happened to both Trump and Vance, then, yeah, I could see Reds drinking their own rhetorical cool aid to the point that they started a civil war or revolution.
But, the key issue is — it’s not like Blues are going to just randomly do these things. They would be goaded into it by hysterical Reds.
Or, put another way, both sides could start a civil war or revolution, it just depends on the specifics of why. Both sides have a growing list of reasons why they my resort to violence. And, yet, it’s really the Reds who would start any such thing, either by going crazy themselves or pushing Blues to the breaking point.

But let’s also take things a step further than think about how, exactly a civil war might play out. I’ve really written a lot about this in the past, but here we go again. Two things — one, we will all know Something Big is about to happen when Blues and Reds feel unsafe on a mass, individual basis they start to flee to Red or Blue states that better fit their personal world views. This will be the finial step, the ship hitting the iceberg, before we collapse into a civil war or revolution.
Second, we really have to think hard about the power of political geography. There are more Blues and than Reds and they are concentrated in specific areas — the Pacific West, the North East and to some extent the Upper Old West (the Midwest or Heartland.)
But there are also a lot of Blue dots in Red States and that’s where the bloodbaths would happen. Places like Atlanta would be taken over and we might even –gulp — have some sort of Killing Fields as cities like Atlanta are emptied by crazed pastoral Reds.
Also, don’t forget WMD would probably be used by both sides as the civil war / revolution progressed. We would quite literally bomb ourselves into oblivion because one side is upset over pronouns.
Lastly, any Red who thinks it will be fun to have the opportunity murder people like me in cold blood really are very clueless about how powerful California and the Eastern Urban Corridor could be when it came to fighting a civil war or revolution.
While, yes, geographically Reds have more territory…now…a mobilized California could easily swoop through the thinly populated states of the Mountain West and link up with, say, Illinois. And, of course there is the issue of the South. While, yes, the South has a lot of territory and economy ability, it’s very possible a fucking race war could break out and the whole area would descend into blood soaked chaos until Blues could swoop in an calm everyone down.
Anyway, hopefully none of this is going to happen. I’d like the opportunity to query my novel in a peaceful nation.




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