Ok, I get it. A lot of MAGA New Right people really, really, REALLY want to murder people like me in cold blood for political reasons. But, at the same time, I feel this sentiment is foolish because, lulz, Republicans control the courts and are getting everything they want politically.
It just makes no sense that there would be a “hot civil war,” at all. Why would Reds, of all people, want that to happen? If anything, they have a vested interest in keeping the peace so they can consulate power.
But the question from the aether was — are we going to have a hot civil war because of the passions of the 2022 mid-terms?
I suppose it’s possible. But it’s definitely not probable. I could see Trump, unto himself, starting a civil war if he became Speaker in 2023. He would demand that Red States threaten to leave the Union if the Senate did not convict Biden and Harris.
But other than that….any idea of there being a hot civil war as part of the passions of the 2022 midterms feels like political froth to me. Something truely unexpected would have to happen for there to be a hot, fighting war anytime between now and when it’s most likely to happen — 2024 – 2025.
I could definitely see a hot civil war in late 2024, early 2025, but the only reason why this is the case is because it would be Blue States, not Red States who would be forcing the issue.
But I don’t think that’s going to happen. The center-Left is too busy canceling Dave Chappelle for not towing the center-Left media narrative to have the guts, the balls to leave the Union.
It’s a testament to how God awful stupid American political discourse is these days that the MAGA New Right continues to spooge its pants over the idea that Bill Maher isn’t a liberal anymore.
This is a prime example of confirmation basis if ever there was one. Maher was never a liberal in the traditional sense and it’s a tell that MAGA New Right cocksuckers would get SOOOO FUCKING EXCITED that Maher might stray from the liberal media narrative.
Get a grip, assholes.
It’s not a sign that The Truth is With Fascism that someone like Maher might question the liberal media narrative. He’s always been a media infant terrible and pretty much a libertarian. He’s not liberal and never has been. The MAGA New Right confuses someone with media legitimacy as someone, by definition, being liberal.
It’s all very dumb. But, then, America is very dumb right now.
In a sense, all of this is a very dark commentary on how fucked up America is right now. The Right is chomping at the bit for any “proof” that anyone on the other side is losing faith so they can point to it as a sign that liberalism is corrupt and collapsing in on itself.
(By the way — fuck you, MAGA.)
The great irony of all of this is, of course, that the MAGA New Right is ascendant. They’re getting everything they want politically and through the courts to the point that the issue of Bill Maher being liberal or not is silly.
Trump is such a dingus that I can’t root around in his mind to figure out what he wanted to do at the Capitol on January 6th. But I do have some educated guesses.
Given what was going on at the time, it seems as though what Trump wanted to do was just to delay, delay, delay. I don’t think he even had a clear idea of what he wanted to do if he actually go to the Capitol that fateful day. Relative to how Trump was thinking at the moment, every minute that Pence was not in a position to certify the vote was a win for him.
It was something akin to magical political thinking.
They had no idea what they were going to do other than just to delay things to the point that something, anything would break their way. Trump and his cronies knew they were playing a losing hand but they were so desperate to win that they felt as long as they hadn’t LOST, then they were winning.
So, with the news of Trump’s Schedule F idea for his second term rolling around in my mind these days, I have decided to finish a great political biography of Hitler. It’s the first part of a two book series and deals with Hitler’s ascent. Ironically enough, I’ve just gotten to the part about Hitler’s failed Beerhall Putsch.
I find myself thinking about what I’m learning about the Beerhall Putsch and what happened with the January 6th Insurrection. I was shocked when I learned that if you do a direct comparison between the two events, Trump came a lot closer to getting what he wanted than Hitler did. Which leads me to believe maybe I’m underestimating Trump.
Is it possible that it could actually be Trump and not DeSantis who pushes America into fascist autocracy? Could it be that we’ll look back on Trump not as the idiotic dingus we see him as now but as a 1-to-1 with Hitler? Is Trump America’s Hitler?
Even though Trump definitely has elements of being America’s Hitler in his personality, there are some things that definitely seem to make him more of a bridge between democracy — > anocracy –> autocracy as opposed to the he, himself being the endgame.
First, is Trump’s age. He’s just too old. He definitely has it in him, with ideas like Schedule F, to be the person who completes America’s transition into fascist autocracy. And, yet…
Another element of this clusterfuck is I’m still not convinced that Trump is a Great Man. He continues to play the part of American Autocrat, very poorly. I stand by my belief that Trump is, unlike Hitler, just a vessel, an avatar for white Christian rage generated over the swift changes in American demographics and politics since about 2012.
But, as I keep saying, it’s has hand picked successor who will be America’s Putin — or Hitler. So, Trump’s second term could very well be the final transition to A Very American Autocracy, but it won’t be the complete picture. All the things I keep talking about when it comes to A Very American Autocracy will happen — ICE being weaponized, Schedule F, 1 million liberals leaving the country. All of that will happen in a second Trump Administration, but it will be President DeSantis, or Flynn, or Cotton or Hawley or Pompeo who uses Trump’s establishment of Trumplandia to cruise to a lifetime, autocratic presidential reign.
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) gestures toward a crowd of supporters of President Donald Trump gathered outside the U.S. Capitol to protest the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s electoral college victory Jan. 6, 2021 at the US Capitol in Washington, DC. Some demonstrators later breached security and stormed the Capitol. (Francis Chung/E&E News and Politico via AP Images)
Of course, there is a chance that if it is Trump who “wins” the 2024 election that he, unto himself, will be enough to provoke a civil war when Blue States get fed up and leave the Union en masse. I continue to be amazed at the minor trickle of people who come to this Website looking for my dystopian hellscape speculation as to what a Second American Civil War would look like.
Anyway, the point is — Trump is a very dangerous historical figure. In fact, we could look back upon Trump has ultimately being worst than Hitler. If we managed to get through the transition into Trumplandia without a civil war breaking out — which would prompt WW3 — the United States could implode into Fortress America which could also…prompt WW3.
Or, put another way, the United States is far, far more politically unstable than we’re willing to admit. So, is Trump America’s Hitler? Only time will tell. But definitely could potentially be America’s Hitler. But he remains way too stupid and lazy for me to think he could pull off the final transformation of the United States into a white Christian ethnostate.
Right before Trump left office, he signed an Executive Order that would allow him to pretty much just fire any civil servant because he wanted to. This was eventually rescinded by President Biden, but Trump is still actively plotting how to bring the idea back when he becomes POTUS again.
I’ve been half-heartedly reading a great book on the rise of Hitler in Germany and when I learned of Trump’s plans for Schedule F, I grabbed it out of my personal library and positioned it in my house so I can remind myself to read it. Because it’s things like Schedule F which are concrete signs of how shitty it will be in the United States once Trump (or whomever happens to be our first autocrat) comes into power.
Remember, it’s unlikely that things will change all that much initially. But they will change. And if we’re lucky, we’ll endup somewhere around Hungary or Turkey politically. If we’re not lucky, we’re going to endup closer to being a Russia — or even Nazi Germany — clone.
The only reason why I dread that we might endup closer to Nazi Germany is race. Once we really accelerate our decline into fascist autocracy, form follows function and it would make a lot of sense for the more extreme elements of the fucking fascist Republican Party to open ICE camps to some sort of “Final Solution” for POC.
But such a nightmarish situation would begin with things like Schedule F.
The United States, the most powerful nation the world has ever seen, is careening towards a dark and unstable fate. I can’t predict the future, so I don’t know what that fate is, but you are a fool if you don’t think things are about to come to a head.
America faces a spectrum of scenarios, with autocracy being at one end and civil war being at the other. The recipe for A Very American Autocracy is simple — a Republican becomes president. That’s it. You don’t even have to add water. The Republican Party hates democracy, doesn’t believe in it and actively says the United States ISN’T a democracy, but rather a “constitutional republic.”
Our transition into autocracy may not even be very dramatic. We’ll just wake up with a Republican president one day and that will be that. Initially, not much will changed but the procession into autocracy will have officially begun and if we’re lucky we settle somewhere around Hungary and if we’re not, we end up a political clone of Russia.
Now, this is not an abstract for me. I’m a loudmouth crank — often drunk — who is known to rant in a very public way at bars about issues of the day. I know it sounds hysterical now to suggest that I might get in trouble doing that in the United States in the future, but form follows function. Once we’re an autocracy, there’s every reason to believe that ICE will become our FSB and there will be a severe chilling affect on freedom of speech in the United States one way or another.
And that means me getting arrested and sent to a camp for calling President DeSantis a cocksucker.
All of this is happening in broad daylight. We see it happening all around us and we’re not doing anything to stop it. Things are so dumb that we all know exactly what might save us — Mike Pence going John Dean on MAGA — and there is absolutely no way it’s going to happen.
Meanwhile, there is a reasonable chance that we might have a civil war. That, too, sounds pretty bonkers. The idea that a United States, which is ostensibly the most stable nation in the world, imploding into civil war seems very difficult to believe is possible.
But it is.
You have the MAGA New Right which is actively chomping at the bit to start a civil war, even though they have no reason to want one. They’re getting everything they want peacefully via the courts and politics, why would they want a civil war?
Anyway, I have no idea which direction we’re going to go. Given how meh the reaction to the Dobbs decision has been, I have every reason to believe that there won’t be any reaction to us becoming an autocracy. I keep thinking it’s possible that in the process of transitioning into autocracy that people will rise to the occasion they will be the people that lead Blue States out of the Union.
Because it will be Blue States that leave the Union if there’s a National Divorce. It’s all very dumb.
All I can say is, figure out what you believe in and what you’re willing to risk in the real world. Good luck.
We live in a post-truth, post-accountability era. In other words — we’re on the verge of becoming a fascist state. Or having a civil war. At the moment, it definitely seems as though we’re just going to slouch into autocracy. And, as I keep saying, the first thing that’s going to happen when it becomes clear this is the case is about 1 million wealthy, well-educated American liberals will bounce.
Vibe shift.
It will get so bad that President DeSantis will go on Fox News all the time to complain about how America is suffering a “brain drain” at the hands of unpatriotic liberals who need to stay and help make America great again. Then, of course, he’ll push for laws making it far, far more difficult for people to leave the country.
Form follows function.
There doesn’t seem to be anything we can do about any of this. The American Republic is on its last legs. Either we destroy ourselves and maybe, just may renew the Republic after bombing ourselves into oblivion, or transition into an autocratic empire and that will be that.
I continue vacillate wildly between thinking we’re going to have a civil war and thinking we’re going to become an autocracy. But, for the time being, I’ve decided that autocracy is what’s going to happen to us. The center-Left is too busy canceling Dave Chappelle to do the hard work in the real world of defending democracy or, if all else fails, seceding from the Union.
The thing that so many Twitter liberals miss is how popular autocracy is right now in the United States. And a lot of that popularity comes from unforced errors on the part of the center-Left. They really can come across as the “woke cancel culture mob” at times — especially when they “cancel” people like Dave Chappelle.
Anyway, things are dire. Really dire. And we’re going into a massive, historic disaster with our eyes wide open. We’re doing nothing constructive to stop either autocracy or civil war. It’s like, as I’ve written before, we’ve just given up.
I really admire author Don Winslow for a number of reasons. As I understand it, he was older when he started getting novels published and that’s something I hope to do, as well. And he and I have a similar belief that the so-called “Resistance” isn’t doing nearly enough to address the rise of fascism in the United States.
But something I do think about is it possible that he’s a little TOO negative. And, let me be clear, I’m the person that Mueller, She Wrote called a “terribly negative person” and blocked.
I guess what specifically I’m thinking about is how he attacks some of the more notable names in the #NeverTrump roster. I totally agree with him that we need to keep an eye on them going forward, but I also think we’re so absolutely desperate as we approach the very turbulent 2023 – 2025 timeframe that we should think about giving them a pass.
It definitely seems as though Republicans have one core belief and that is: owning libs. The idea of “owning the libs” is so fundamental, so existential to what they believe that in their campaign ads they simply can not have enough AR-15s. They don’t stop at holding one.
Coming soon to a Republican campaign ad near you.
No, they need at least two. And if they’re forced to hold only one AR-15, then it has to be pointed at something, as if they’re going to murder in cold political blood the next libtard that cross their path. It makes you wonder what’s next. Are Republicans going to abduct members of The Atlantic staff and film snuff films where they chase them through the streets of New York City with an AR-15?
Definitely seems possible, the way things are going.
But there is a broader connection between Republicans obsession with AR-15 and the rise of fascism in the United States. Even though Trump pretty much is totally above the law and fuck you lib, the idea that Leftists are burning cities down, and, as such, God fearing Republicans need to have a few AR-15s at the ready are very much intertwined.
The thing I fear your typical Twitter liberal doesn’t grasp is how popular autocratic, theocratic fascism is in the United States. If you add in conservative Traditionalists who aren’t MAGA but hate libs because they think they’re all “groomers” the total percent of the electorate in favor of a white Christian ethnostate is probably at least 48%.
So, I don’t know what to tell you. It definitely feels like we’re going to slip peacefully into fascist autocracy. Republicans are just too organized and passionate. Good luck. Get out of the country if you can.
Just from talking to my Traditionalist relatives, I can tell you that they’re too busy owning the libs over cow farts to do anything about humanity’s impending doom from global climate change. It’s not that they not believe the weather is weird or that it’s changing, it’s just they refuse to do anything about it. They usually couch their answers in terms how the weather is always changing and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
American Traditionalists would literally rather bequeath a planet too hot to live on that risk missing an opportunity to own the libs. The more I think about it, the more it seems like the only way we save humanity is for America to have that “National Divorce” that MAGA New Right people seem to masturbate to all the time.
But it should be Blues, not Reds who serve the papers.
Even if such a National Divorce caused the use of WMD and the USA bombing itself into oblivion and WW3 happened because of it, maybe when came out the other side humanity would all be on the same page about what to do about global climate change.
Because as of right now, a united America is so unable to address the existential danger of global climate change that it’s better that we slide into civil war and hope for the best. If we don’t do anything, the climate is only going to get worse and worse to the point that earth is uninhabitable.
But at least every last lib will be owned, like with a boot on their face for eternity.
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