MAGA’s political thinking has reached a point where it is so recursive that it’s very pointless to talk to them if you don’t agree with them. I suppose the same could be said for me as anti-MAGA as well, but usually if I feel the person who disagrees with me is acting in good faith I’ll at least give them a chance before walking away.
One talking point I’ve gotten recently from MAGA is the idea that it’s the Left that is “burning down cities because they don’t get what they want.” Of course, one could point out that the most egregious example of people turning to violence because they didn’t get what they wanted came from MAGA when they stormed the Capitol.
It’s arguments like that one the part of MAGA that makes me just tune out. I give up. How do you have an honest debate with someone who either always talks in bad faith, or if they do talk in good faith, they’re so absolutely partisan than they see compromise as weakness and, as such, something that has to be exploited and attacked.
Jesus Christ, fuck that!
And this totally ignores that I keep saying that MAGA has every reason to not be violent because they’re getting everything they want via the courts and politics. I keep saying this over and over and over and over again but MAGA is so full of angry crybabies who feel aggrieved that they…just…don’t…listen…to…me. They’re so angry about how thing think anyone who isn’t MAGA is gay or a “groomer” or both that they don’t even hear it when you tell them that they just need to be patient and they’ll get everything they want.
It’s very, very frustrating.
When about half the population hates the term “liberal” so absolutely that just the use of the term, period, for any reason evokes rage you got a problem. I mean, I can’t say “liberal democracy” or “liberal world order” without a MAGA person freaking the fuck out. FUCK YOU, MAGA, YOU COLLECTIVE PIECES OF SHIT.
Anyway. We’re doomed. We either turn into an autocracy or have a civil war. There is no middle ground and neither side is listening to the other. There is no solution at this point other than to just leave the country. Or figure out what you believe in and what you’re willing to suffer for in the real world when the time comes.
One thing that continues to really get on my nerves is how clueless the nattering nabobs of negativism on Twitter can be so clueless about the intentions of Reds. They got to great pains to point out the ostensibly “dumb” comments that Red “thought leaders” make.
First of all, all the dumb things that Red thought leaders say aren’t dumb — they’re craven. Red leaders know their audience and they know what gets them a prized Fox News primetime slot. Sometimes, to get on Fox News they simply jumble a series of MAGA catch phrases and buzz words together in something that doesn’t sound like English — at least to someone who isn’t MAGA.
As such, you have Red governors ranting about how unsecure the border is — even though their specific state is nowhere near the fucking border! But that’s not how the MAGA base sees it. They know that it’s not “the border” it’s The Border. In the mind of MAGA there is only one border — the national border. I don’t think anyone really appreciates that MAGA really wants that fucking wall built even though it’s completely bonkers to propose and that’s not even how most illegal immigrants get in the country.
I point them to a link that explains that it’s people overstaying their visas, not crossing the border that is causing the immigration crisis and because the article was in The Atlantic, they dismiss it as “bogus” and “liberal propaganda.”
The point of all of this is Blues and Reds are now so siloed in what they believe that neither side has any clue what the other side thinks and, as such, projects onto them what they believe they think. So, Reds think that all Blues are “groomers” who want to cancel anyone who doesn’t fit their media narrative. Meanwhile, Blues like me throw around the term “fascist” when it comes to Reds — something that often makes Reds quite upset. (They are fascists, by the way.)
But where does all this lead us? Well, as I keep saying there’s a spectrum of what is going to happen in the United States. On one end, there’s civil war (unlikely at this point ) and on the other is autocracy.
At the moment, it definitely seems as though we’re going to stop being two nations and start becoming just one — Trumplandia. I suppose it’s possible that we’ll have a civil war but if it happens it will be because Blues leave the Union, not because Reds decide to have that revolution they apparently have a huge hard on for. Fuck you if you want a MAGA revolution, by the way. Eat shit.
But we’re going to become an autocracy because the center-Left is so divided, poorly focused and poorly lead that they just don’t have the guts necessary to leave the Union and, as such, start a civil war. So, lulz. That’s it. We’re going to turn into an autocracy (probably much like Hungary) and Reds will, at last, not have to worry about being canceled.
They may have to worry about relatives — like me! — who refuse to get with the Red program being snatched off the street by ICE and found in a ditch somewhere, but ho um. I suppose it will be worth it to them in the long run.
Ok, so you’re drinking Coors Lite with your buds at the cabin, you know, the one where you SWEAR you saw Big Foot, and you come to your evening’s 2 minutes of Liberal Hate. You talk about how all liberals want to do is “groom” third graders and how Dr. Fauci OBVIOUSLY directly made money from COIVD and why isn’t he in jail yet?
Before things finish, though, you realize that there needs to be a revolution or something. So, in your anger, you search for “MAGA Revolution?” and end up here.
First of all, you’re a fucking cocksucker who was high when you “saw Big Foot.” Fuck you, you piece of shit.
Ok, but let’s get the the question at hand, “Will MAGA start a revolution?”
This is such a dumb, dumb, dumb sentiment for lots of reasons, chief among them it’s highly unlikely that MAGA will start a “revolution” than a “civil war.” But you’re obviously an idiot and “revolution” makes you feel better.
The crux of this question is the idea that, for some reason, MAGA is going to freak out and start murdering people like yours truly for political reasons, using all those AR-15s that you want to fuck so bad.
I hate to break it to you, you fucking cocksucker MAGA piece of shit, but it makes no sense at all for MAGA to start either a revolution or a civil war. Why in the world would MAGA do that? Republicans are just a few months away from winning the House and SCOTUS is handing MAGA everything it could possibly want and more on a silver plate.
I suppose there is the chance that Trump will get named Speaker in 2023 and he will demand a civil war unless both Biden and Harris are impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate. But that, while very possible, still is very silly and would be a massive self own when all Trump would have to do is be fucking patient.
The point is — the MAGA New Right has a concrete vested interest in there not being a civil war. Meanwhile, if there is going to be a civil war, it won’t be Reds who start it, but Blues. WHY IS THIS SO FUCKING HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND.
JESUS H. CHRIST.
This frustrates me because plenty of very well educated Twitter liberals who should know better still chase the shiny object of Reds being interested in starting a civil war.
Ugh. What’s worse, I don’t even think we’re going to have a civil war! We’re just going to slouch into autocracy.
I talk a lot about the United States now, inevitably, becoming an autocracy, but what does that mean in real terms? Well, some context first. The violent elements of the MAGA New Right get a lot of attention, to the point that even some experts assume that if there is a civil war they will be the ones to start it.
This is complete bullshit. They’re politically ascendant and they have a vested interest in keeping the peace so they get everything they want without firing a shot. MAGA talks a lot about murdering people like me in cold blood for political reasons, but that’s more just the froth of a movement that is extremely impatient to strangle American democracy.
So, the key thing you have to appreciate is there is, in fact, a chance of a civil war during the transition to autocracy, but it should it happen, it will be Blues, not Reds who start it. And it will be at the state level, not some sort of rolling political violence like what was found with the Northern Ireland “Troubles.” Anyone who suggests that either isn’t paying any attention or they have some sort of warped fever dream where they get to use their AR-15s against liberals once and for all.
Anyway, back to autocracy.
There are two paths to autocracy for the US at the moment. One is, Trump becomes president again struggles to bring autocracy but can’t because he’s too dumb and lazy to pull it off. But he does set the stage for his hand-picked successor to pull it off. Trump is a big fat tub of lard and I just can’t see him making it through his second term. Given how deranged Trump is, his veep in this scenario could be anyone from Gen. Mike Flynn to malignant goober Josh Hawley.
The OTHER way is much more direct — Ron DeSantis becomes president and he slowly and methodically strangles American democracy. It could be any one of the dozen would be autocrats within Republican ranks that does it, but DeSantis is probably the most likely non-Trump nominee.
Ok. So then what?
Nothing will change at first. But soon enough, Republicans will push through a series of “reforms” that will allow them to establish an autocracy that will change the lives of everyday Americans in practical ways. Abortion will be be outlawed nationally without any exceptions. The social safety net will be gutted. Taxes for the poor will rise, while taxes for the wealthy will be cut down to the bone.
But one not-so-obvious “reform” will be with the Federal civil service. Trump already rants about how he wants to make it so he can fire anyone he likes for any reason. This usually comes up in context of how much he hates Dr. Fauci. And given how much my Traditionalist relatives hate Dr. Fauci, anything that would let the autocrat replace him with a MAGA toadie is something they can support.
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) gestures toward a crowd of supporters of President Donald Trump gathered outside the U.S. Capitol to protest the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s electoral college victory Jan. 6, 2021 at the US Capitol in Washington, DC. Some demonstrators later breached security and stormed the Capitol. (Francis Chung/E&E News and Politico via AP Images)
So, once the autocrat can fire civil servants for political reasons, then there really will be a Deep State — only it will be MAGA. So, even if, somehow, a Democrat won the presidency and some point in the future, the MAGA Deep State would balk at actually doing anything he or she said.
And, lastly, we have to accept that there’s going to be a Constitutional Convention at some point after 2025. Now, obviously, it is also possible that in the near term someone like DeSantis could simply be named Speaker of the House and rule the country that way. He would personally pick some toady — maybe Lara Trump? — to be POTUS and would have a “Velvet Fist” situation where she would run around being hot and dumb while the real power would reside behind the throne with Speaker DeSantis. Such shenanigans are pretty standard with autocratic states.
The last thing to go would be freedom of speech. The first way this would be changed is when plutocrat allies of the autocrat buy up or invest in major media companies so they are beholden to him. Or, if the autocrat wanted to more…autocratic…he would simply threaten to revoke their broadcast licenses until they submitted. ICE would be weaponized and would become like the FSB in Russia. The existing ICE infrastructure would be used to throw people — like me! — into camps if they cross the autocrat.
So, that’s our future. Or we have a civil war. Take your pick.
Someone on Twitter quipped that I “appear to have a miserable life” and I should become a conservative because they “have more fun.” Excluding the fact that all of that is complete bullshit, let’s investigate the idea that MAGA is “having more fun” these days.
The personal in the circle is not doing the Hitler salute, but is having a lot more fun I think.
I suppose it’s always more fun to burn things to the ground than to build them up. Building and defending institutions is hard work and so of course it’s more fun when you’re lighting a match and laughing as democracy goes up in flames. But that is the rather abstract political “fun” of destroying things.
If you want to be far more practical about things on a personal level — being conservative sucks. You’re against all the fun things of life like recreational sex even though you do it just as much, if not more than liberals.
Because you don’t mind being fucking hypocrites.
So, no. Being conservative is NOT more fun. It makes fucking cocksucker MAGA New Right people feel better to suggest this, but it’s just not fucking true. And, history has shown that autocracies ARE NOT FUN.
But conservatives aren’t thinking about that at the moment. They just want to “own the libs” on Twitter by suggesting if they only became conservative they would have more fun instead of their miserable lives of screaming at the top of their lungs that the arrival of…conservative tyranny.
I’ve pretty much seen enough — rather than have any sort of civil war, the United States is going to become a Hungary-style autocracy. I say this because the American center-Left has proven itself to be complete ineffectual. Combine this with how the entire edifice of the Republican Party is now fascist and I just don’t see how we don’t slouch our way into autocracy at some point after 2025.
Things won’t change initially, of course. But gradually, in fits and starts someone like a President DeSantis is going to gradually throttle what’s left of traditional American democracy.
And we’re going to let it happen with our eyes wide open. There will be a lot of gnashing of teeth on the part of Twitter liberals as all of this happens, but in the end they’re simply going to leave the country — I predict a least 1 million in the first few years.
Now, this is not an abstract to me. I’m a loudmouth crank who is often drunk and as our new autocrat consolidates power it is inevitable — because form follows function — that even that most prized of American rights, freedom of speech, will no longer exist.
All my hysterical predictions from the first Trump Administration will happen, just a number of years after I initially predicted them. Remember, the people who voted for orange dingus in 2016 wanted an autocrat. Trump has shown how weak America’s democratic institutions are and as such, once someone like DeSantis is POTUS they will know they can get away with some pretty white knuckled autocracy and people will abide by it.
The great irony is, of course, that the MAGA New Right is hysterical about how much they want to murder people like me in cold blood for political reasons that they — and a lot of third party observers — get wrapped up in the fanciful idea that Reds will start some sort of civil war.
This is a very dumb belief. Reds have no reason to start a civil war and it would be a massive, historic self-own on their part if they did such a thing. They just have a vested interest in keeping the peace so they can inevitably consolidate power without firing a shot.
There, are, any number of scenarios you could think up were we have a civil war but most of them require some pretty massive screw ups on the part of the MAGA New Right. If there is a Second American Civil War, it’s going to happen when Blue States leave the Union en masse.
The only reason why I can’t 100% predict there won’t be a civil war is, lulz, I can’t predict the future and any number of totally unexpected things could happen that might force Blue States to feel they have no other option but to leave the Union through a “National Divorce” and, as such, precipitate a civil war.
But, for the time being, I would advise you to get ready for A Very American Autocracy. The center-Left is fiddling while American democracy burns by being “woke” and getting way too wrapped up in things like pronouns. Autocracy is really, really popular in the United States at the moment and, as such, when the next Republican becomes president, that’s all she wrote for the American birthright of democracy.
I like to say that if every election your nation have is existential, then maybe you’re not really a democracy anymore. Well, there are so many would-be autocrats running around within Republican ranks at the moment who would throttle American democracy once elected that it’s hard to manage them all.
Ron DeSantis
But the one that my Traditionalist relatives love, love, love, love is Ron DeSantis, to the point that they tell me in a very snarky, asshole way that they want to “vote for him three times” when the time comes.
The reason DeSantis (and to some extent Tucker Carlson) is so dangerous is he is far smoother than Trump. He’s an opportunist. Trump was a stress test on our democratic institutions and they failed. A lot. So all DeSantis has to do is just get elected and the rest takes care of itself. The Republican Party is fascist and they will be more than happy to pass enabling acts that will allow DeSantis to purge the government of the “deep state.” They will look the other way when he threatens the broadcast licenses of major media companies and, a such, neuters them.
At the moment, follow is pretty much a foregone conclusion. DeSantis becomes president, becomes our first autocrat changes the Constitution via a Constitutional Convention and weaponizes ICE along the way. That’s it. That’s America’s future.
In fact, I would go so far as to say the only reason why I have any doubt that this is, in fact, our future is I can’t predict the future and it hasn’t happened yet. Otherwise, it’s just reality that is in the future.
So, what could go wrong?
The most obvious obstacle with Generation DeSantis becoming a reality is Trump. If Trump refuses to step aside and DeSantis manages to draw first blood, then all the other would-be autocrats lurking around would jump on Trump, too.
Then the best DeSantis can hope for is to be Trump’s veep. He would still be very well positioned to be our first true autocrat. BUT, we have to remember that Trump is so stupid and lazy that he could, single-handedly start a civil war at some point in late 2024 – early 2025.
So, on one hand, we have an autocratic DeSantis future and on the other we have civil war.
Everyone’s favorite bowtie fascist Tucker Carlson went to Iowa recently and makes one think — is he running? I can tell you from empirical evidence that he is EXTREMELY POPULAR with Traditionalists who are Good Germans but who are uneasy with Trump.
So it’s very logical for Carlson to at least ponder seriously the idea of running for POTUS. In a sense, Carlson is more Trump than Trump because he’s smarter and better educated so he can be even more white nationalist in an overt manner than Trump but say it in such a way that he can get away with it.
Now, some context.
Trump is such an idiot and something of a Frankenstein’s Monster that he refuses to retire and let DeSantis or whomever fight it out with Carlson to see who will be the fascist that makes America officially an autocratic state. So, there are two options.
One, Trump simply wades back into the race for president and politically cockblocks everyone else. The other option is there is a massive pitched battle between Trump, DeSantis and a few other would be autocrats like Tucker Carlson. Then, it’s a very last man (or woman) standing situation. To the point that there MIGHT be a brokered Republican convention which would be more about who would be Trump’s veep than anything else.
I don’t think enough people appreciate how important Trump’s selection of veep will be. Trump is old and fat and so out of shape that it’s doubtful he will make it through his second term. As such, if Trump goes nuts and picks, say, someone like Mike Flynn to be his veep — something I’ve been told on Twitter will never, ever happen — then we could really be up shit creek without a paddle.
Anyway, don’t sleep on Tucker Carlson. Even with Trump running around running for POTUS during the 2024 cycle, Carlson is SO popular that he still has a pretty decent chance of winning the nomination and, as such, the presidency. I mean, we’re never going to have another free and fair election unless there’s a civil war so, lulz, if you win the Republican nomination you’re POTUS.
I talk to my Traditionalist relatives and when they’re not talking about their extreme abstract fears of being personally “canceled” by the woke cancel culture mob just for being conservative — they believe that that very same woke cancel culture mob is trying to turn everyone gay.
In fact, I have to spend 10 minutes wading through their homophobic talking points distilled from Fox News and various rabidly conservative podcasts before we can even talk about the issues of the day. Relative to Traditionalists, the “homosexual agenda” has grow so absolutely powerful that no one can escape its maw.
Traditionalists think everyone who isn’t a Traditionalists is either gay or about to become gay or is “grooming” little tykes to become gay in the not so distant future.
I guess what it all boils down to is the center-Left has a branding problem. A serious one. MAGA has successfully painted their opposition as either “groomers’ or a “woke cancel culture mob” to the people who would otherwise serve as a firebreak against fascists: Traditionalists. When Traditionalists become Good Germans, your nation has a serious fucking problem on its hands.
But that’s where we are.
As I’ve written before, it definitely seems as though Americans have collectively just given up. We’re slouching towards either autocracy or civil war. We’re in a post-accountability era and, as such, that’s post truth. If you’re post truth, you’re pre-fascist. And only because officially becoming an autocratic state would bump up against American self-perception in a big way to I still have any doubts about us becoming an autocracy.
Otherwise, all systems are go for us to become a Hungary – Turkey style autocracy and maybe even drift towards being a Russian clone on a political basis. The center-Left is so weak, so focused on identity politics driven by the latest outraged tweet that we’re all just fucked. Some of it is out of the center-Left’s hands because of macro trends, and some of it is unforced errors.
It’s clear to me that America, as a nation, has collectively given up. The forces of autocracy or civil war that are tearing us apart are just too strong. As I keep saying, we’re past the event horizon.
We’re either going to implode (autocracy) or explode (civil war.)
America is in this strange post-accountability era where Trump and his cronies are all above the law because we’re afraid to upset MAGA. This, of course, only emboldens them to commit more crimes. And, in the end, either we get some accountability through murdering each other in cold blood for political reasons or we turn into a MAGA autocracy and that’s that.
Given empirical evidence at the moment, I think we’re going to become an autocracy. Blue States just don’t have the willpower or leadership to leave the Union en mass. I get really irritated when people say our future is the “Troubles” like what they had in Northern Ireland. That is total bullshit. That says more about MAGA wanting to use all those guns they want to fuck to murder people like me than it says anything about what our future may be.
A “Troubles” situation is not applicable for the United States. We’re far more likely to simply skip that step and become an autocracy. And if we do have large scale political violence, it’s going to be because Blue States leave the Union.
Anyway, because of macro, tectonic issues this is the twilight of traditional America. Either this is a modern antebellum period, or we just going to become an autocracy and then the issue is how much do we drift into being a Russia clone.
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